4x4 - absolut necesar sau moft

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Malul ăla nu are 45 grade. Arată de 30.
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Sri Lanka ne zice ca Sportage are traction control:
The vehicle features Kia’s “Dynamax” all wheel drive system, which is a fully automatic system that varies front rear torque depending on wheel-spin; no serious off-roading is possible here, but the system certainly aids cornering stability and will get you up that slippery slope (not life, the literal kind) should the need arise. Dynamax and Kia’s Advanced Traction Cornering Control (ATCC) working in tandem give exceptional levels of grip as the ATCC brakes the inside wheel to avoid understeer – perhaps the Porsche similarities run deeper than just appearance.
http://www.motormaglanka.lk/Sportage

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Despre Kia’s Advanced Traction Cornering Control (ATCC) zice chiar site-ul oficial kia.com, la adresa: http://www.kia.com/kw/showroom/sportage.html

Mai exact:
http://www.kia.com/kmc/images/showroom/ ... e-04-w.jpg

Advanced Traction Cornering Control (ATCC)
Advanced Traction Cornering Control monitors and analyzes road conditions, making sure the right amount of torque is focused on the wheel with the most grip to counteract over or understeer.
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LOL - acum vad ca e site-ul din kw - Kuweit. Poate numai la ei or avea asta ?!
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Cand mi-am luat masina am vazut ca si la americani era prin brosura, la noi nu si nu cred ca nu s-ar fi laudat. Ce stie la noi e numa sa transfere fata spate si cam atat. Poti ramane si pe drum drept daca nu poti iesi din inertie si nu ai cel putin o punte care are tractiune. Deci, situatii diagonale sau cu tractiune numai pe o parte sunt vise.

Am gasit si linku http://cdn.dealereprocess.com/cdn/broch ... ortage.pdf.

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http://www.kia.com/kw/showroom/sportage.html

Si pe kia.com, inseamna ca e pe toate.

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Dap, exista acel ATCC pe Sportage, aveti foto din Sportage Product Guide, materialul de pregatire a personalului de vanzari de la noi.ImageImage

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Oare merge cu ESP activat sau dezactivat, cu rotile oricum sau bracate. Pe filmuletele de la modelul anterior se vedea clar ca nu franeaza roata fara aderenta - pentru modelul nou n-am gasit ceva clar (Ar fi da nu-mi dau seama daca franeaza soferul sau masina). Exact asta e situatia: Se vede clar cum roata suspendata ia toata puterea transmisa de motor pe puntea respectiva pentru ca diferentialul e open si nu o franeaza nimic iar cea cu aderenta ramane fara putere.

Ar fi interesant un test si cu modelul de 2017. Teoretic are tot ce-i trebe : AWD + ESP care poate frana. Ar trebui numai softul care sa identifice si sa franeze roata/rotile fara tractiune care ar putea fi acel ATCC.

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Deci ATCC e descris ca fiind deja in sistemele lui Sportage, de fapt este acel ESC/ ESP fiindca alt buton nu avem. Asta inseamna sa nu dezactivezi ESP cand dai pe Lock.
Daca la Sorento mai sus a functionat, trebuie sa functioneze si la Sportage.

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Acuma cu tot respectul, nu se poate face o sesiune cu Kia pe treaba asta ?! Eu unul nu vin sa ma uit la culori de masini, ar trebui sa organizam cu ei o prezentare si testare de AWD, nu ma gandesc la off road, ci in curtea lor, cu role etc.

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americanul ala e decat idiot, ma scuzati pt pleonasm.



de la minutul 6,45 incolo iti arata cum functioneaza cand are una sau 2 roti ridicate.

din pacate astia nu au testat si ultimul sportage, doar tucson.



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Asta cred ca vrea doar sa denigreze masina, nu cred ca a actionat lock-ul, sau cel putin nu cred ca functiona!?!

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Asta a mai fost data pe aici pe forum... Intradevar, cred ca intentionat a realizat aceste operatiuni care duc la o concluzie inselatoare.
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Si nici anvelope nu are.
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N-au legatura cauciucurile, puteau sa fie niste coji, felul in care se invarteau rotile alea in aer e inexplicabil dupa lock

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